sharwil avocado vs hass
I would recommend buying a new and healthy tree within the next month and planting it straight away no keeping it for months on your deck first. (I have numerous other avocado trees near my Gwen.) What a find. Its season should complement the GEM well, and the growing pattern shouldnt be too intrusive. I live on the edge here in the San Fernando Valley when it comes to frost (and heat) so in addition to my Reed I have planted Sir Prize, Stewart, and Mexicola as cooler weather backups. Both trees have been prolific. This high quality, black-skinned avocado is up to 25% larger than its parent, Mexicola. I will order the combination you recommended. They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. Im planning on planting a Reed. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. They had to prune three times per year, and still the production had declined since year nine. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. (Alternatively, if I had a neighbor with a Hass or a vendor at a farmers market who sold good Hass, then I could plant a Reed as my only tree.). I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. The worst infestations Ive seen have been on highly fertilized trees. Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? Its a challenge to choose a single avocado variety to plant. It is probably the climate but since I have been surprised by other varieties nothing like finding out for . When I looked up the harvest time, it looks similar to a Reed. Its green-skinned fruits weigh 8 to 20 oz and mature in winter and spring. I couldnt send the photos here. I guess the mites are too small to interest Ladybugs. I did a Sharwill, Sirprize and Gemthats a B B and an A, planted them 42 inches apart. Also no information whether it is a clonal rootstock or a seedling one (for avocado trees). Yes, before asking you about the rootstocks, I checked if there was anything about avocado rootstocks on The Yard Posts! Ive done it with some of my trees; with others I allow low branching, multiple leaders, and more of a globe shape overall. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. I have learned so much from your website, Thank You. Ive never bought from Clausen but have heard good results from a friend who has bought avocado trees there. 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Hi Greg, I live on the California Coast in between Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay, were at about 800ft elevation and 1 mile inland from the coast. The difference is that the A type trees have flowers that will open as females in the morning one day, close in the afternoon, then open the next afternoon as male and then close in the evening. Based on other research, Id been drawn to trying a GEM avocado tree here in NoCal on the coast (near Ft. Bragg and Mendocino). fireduck. Unfortunately, they do not have a webshop, but I was able to call them, and they spoke both French and English. We live in Carlsbad, CA, which I believe is sunset zone 24. As your commenter mentioned above, this list might not be optimal for those of us in slightly cooler areas. For your milder location though, this might not be important. Your help would be most welcome, var. So, in a sense, you dont want to disturb them. Do you like its eating qualities about as well as Sharwil? Thanks for all the resources. The heat was overwhelming (60 consecutive tropical nights, hosepipe ban, more than 100 towns in France had no drinking water). Four different varieties which were doing very well. So with just these two trees, Id have the highest quality avocados in the world for most months of the year. About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. Whip vs. side grafting considerations. Thanks Greg. Maybe you would say Reed or Fuerte to graft instead of Lamb? Daily 11 Avocado. those seedlings are just what i was able to get locally that have excellent flavor from what i research online. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. If you want it to grow both up and wide, Id plant a Hass. In the wild this means a range of flying and crawling insects, but in Western Australia this is . It seems that Reed has the advantage in terms of fruit production. Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. The trees were 15 gal and difficult to keep hydrated the first summer(you forget all the roots are contained in the pot size). A good companion for GEM in your allotted space of 12 by 12 might be Pinkerton or Sir-Prize to get fruit in winter before GEM is ready to pick in spring; or Reed or Lamb to get fruit in summer into fall after the GEM harvest is done. North-south orientation works well since morning and afternoon sun will hit all trees almost equally. This might be different for you though; it probably depends on your particular microclimate. Should I go which two Dusas (Hass+Dusa, Reed+Dusa)? Thin skin but good flavor. I live in the bay area/delta in Brentwood. Its only the second time I have seen one in 5 years so I took it as fate and bought it to replace a Bacon I had which was burnt away by the sun yet I am convinced it was mislabeled and wasnt actually a Bacon. Bacon, If I only have space for one avocado tree, could I graft several varieties to this one tree, or is this not recommended? Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! Im watching them do so in my yard right now. Im guessing youre referring to Van Nuys as being slightly cooler in winter (compared to spots closer to the beach). That was very encouraging. Finally picking a bunch of softball-sized, very tasty fruits. Watering. It is medium in size with rough green skin and yellowish-green flesh. In Northern California Hass doesnt do as well for some reason (unless you live on the coast) compared with other varieties. Thanks! And please let me know how your adventure in avocado growing proceeds. I dont think it is possible to attach files to the commentaries ongregalder.com, so I will send you pictures by email. Step 4. In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. What is the next most oil-based Avo after the Hass? (it is tempting to just buy a larger tree but im in it for the long run). Today, the 'Hass' accounts for about 80 percent of all avocados consumed in the entire world. I hope you didnt get snow where you are, because a few weeks ago when I was there, it was COLD and rainy. Hass has done very well on Duke 7 for decades in many locations. I live against the mountains in Pasadena so it can get pretty chilly in the winter will these verities do well in my climate? See my short video profile of Pinkerton avocado fruit here.). Highlights. We also now have rain tanks and are going to try and save our rain water for the avo, as the other fruit trees do well with our water. But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. I have tried a bunch of places with no luck, its even hard finding a Fuerte. We might be on to something. The salt tolerance of some is not extremely better than others. For anyone in the bay area I recommend Pinkerton and Lamb. We also have a Cate Macadamia tree in the backyard which is doing excellent. Avocado Reed. Most of the other retail nurseries buy from the same wholesale growers (La Verne and Durling). BTW Thank you for the great info youve published. Maybe I should just roll the dice! In Point Loma/Sunset Cliffs, just make sure the trees arent stressed from lack of water and you should prevent whatever fruitlet drop is possible to prevent. Also, avocado flowers are primarily pollinated by bees, and bees readily fly between trees that are 50 feet apart. What are your thoughts on a Sharwil Tree? I picked up the last Reed from Walter Andersens last week and a little Fuerte. Im ruthless with pruning shears (you have to be), Youre welcome to check out Piet Stassen and his pruning technique displayed at UC Irvine. I have a Hass that is a few years old from Durling Nursery. I just put down the mulch and leave it be. Thank you. Vasco, thank you for your kind message. Lambs do get rich, for sure. (I dont have any other varieties available in local nurseries, hence the limited choice..). how come i never thought about this! Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. How did the kahaluu taste? If you ever go wine tasting up here, the huge Puebla and another large tree which sounded like a Zutano but it could be some other old variety they are at Farella Vineyard in Napa. This variety is productive in both coastal and inland areas. I have two Hass and a sir prize, and my next door neighbor has a Big Florida type avocado and a friend down the street has a seed grown reed type with round fruit. I hope you get a chance to plant a real avocado tree or three this spring. I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. Id like to try out that variety. As for Reed, it can handle the heat fairly well as far as Ive seen. More reliably available than Sharwil, GreyStar avocados have the same wonderful texture and delicious flavour, and a long season from December to June. Here is how some of my trees looked after that record heat of July 2018: https://youtu.be/Umm_WOoGERo, I just want to say your posts and YouTube profile videos have been an amazing tool for me! Historic photo of Mr. and Mrs. Rudolph Hass in front of an avocado tree Still, taste is subjective and theres no accuracy in saying any one variety is the best tasting to anyone but yourself. Thanks Greg, Thanks! Denny. And such dense shade cloth (60%) right above the trees for the whole summer would be too much shade and would reduce growth. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. Spraying the underside of leaves with a forceful stream of water can reduce mite presence on a few small trees where this is feasible.. Could you make a suggestion and where I may obtain that tree. Youve already got some great varieties growing there. Is that too far away? Suggestions? Pinkerton, I would eliminate the Wertz on the basis of the others tasting better. Yes, thats my thought and what I suspected you might think as well! My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. Thanks for these comments. Im torn though We have a small space with good sunlight and drainage in our yard that is probably 12 x 12 for this tree. The Different Types According To Region Of Origin Horticulturally, avocados are classified into three categories, based on the regions of their origin. The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. 3 Advertisements West Indian (Persea americana Mill. But I think its going to be a more common variety for Southern California in the future. We dont need a shade tree (probably that was obvious. Taste Ive read is great. The fruit is tasty, but not that tasty. I was given permission and I will get you some budwood hopefully within a year. If the tree turns out to be a winner in your yard too, then eventually we can all benefit from the discovery. The tree looks good and very healthy!!!!!! Medium thickness of skin - Sharwil and Hass - handles shipping better than thin-skinned varieties (Kahaluu); easier for consumer to determine ripeness than thick-skinned varieties (Murashige, Yamagata). Stay sharp! Required fields are marked *. What do you think, is it overkill to have two Hass trees? The Sharwil is a Guatemalan avocado of Australian origin, very similar to the Fuerte (although the Sharwil avocado is more ovular). 2. Medium spreading canopy. Ive enjoyed reading your posts as I consider my Avocado plant. Both varieties are a rich source of monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, also known as "healthy fats," which means it's not a bad idea to eat an avocado every day. I grafted some Sharwils here and there in the spring, and theyve grown more than any other variety I grafted this year (including Fuerte, which people often talk of as being so vigorous). . Thanks for the articles; Im finding them to be a wonderful resource. I have downscaled a bit.and now I have just 20 trees and 16 varieties. Due to the protracted nature of avocado flowering in this region, all varieties had some degree of cross-over. The wood is soft, the leaves are soft. The good news is that I know trees there that have had them for years, have never been treated for them, and the trees still produce well. This is how your year in avocados could look. To mitigate the clay soil, the planting area is raised, and the adjacent rock wall is free standing to allow drainage. Might turn out to be yours though! (See page 28 in Gary Benders book, Avocado Production in California. I didnt protect my Reed with shade cloth when I first planted it, and my paint protection was not enough to prevent the top being seriously burned so I lost about 18-24 inches on the top. Weve been in our San Diego (San Carlos) home a year and are finalizing landscaping. Old mexicana only a few a year, sometimes none. About the winter/spring varieties that you mentioned: I dont know how much heat Wurtz can handle. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. https://gregalder.com/yardposts/protecting-avocado-trees-from-heat/. Avocados love it just above 70. Good questions, all. In the meantime, well work on protecting it from sunburn when it hits 100 F or 110 F in a few months! For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. I just dont understand it. Two, how many people are you feeding? Thats a cool question. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. Thank you! Hass is amazing in this way. Hi Greg, thank you for your posts. See if you can find a Reed to try again in September and youll probably get a richer flavor from it. Horizontally? I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. Zutano, Once budwood is available without using the mother tree I will share more on the Lamorinda. Really it's the type A Guatemalans that far and away perform best in the cool temps. And compared to Reed, Fuertes production isnt as consistently high. (Theyll both produce some without a pollenizer.) Anyway, usually its for the best that trees shed some of their fruitlets. So even though I had anticipated buying for a few months, it seems that the winter avocado is more expensive, historically. At my place Gwen seems to be doing fine in the heat but it is getting some afternoon shade from a large live oak. But the important thing is that Reeds taste great a couple months after Hass are at their best. Then you can add a third one strictly based a flavor. Ive got a Fuerte tree that Ive grafted a couple Pinkerton and Lamb branches into, but this situation is easier because I want those Pinkerton and Lamb branches to stay small and just provide pollen for the Fuerte; Im not trying to have each variety take up about a third of the canopy area. But yes, Lamb, Reed, and Fuerte all have higher salt tolerance than Hass. So a small Lunchbox avocado becoming available soon is not likely, as far as I can tell. I wish I knew your yard in particular because there are always various microclimates within Sunset Zones and city limits, but unless youve got an unusually low and cold spot then these varieties should do fine. I am in the hills of Montecito, south facing slope. If your Reed is on Dusa and its doing well so far, then I would get those other trees on Dusa too. I visited a grove with a soil pH of 8 and saw that their GEM trees on Dusa were stunted and chlorotic. We have a central coast house with three citrus trees and was looking for one Avocado tree, I was leaning towards the Sir Prize, with your discussion should I lean towards the Haas as a single tree, or is either a good choice. If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. But I would add them only after planting this trio. The skin also gets some brown russetting. Wonder what that was all about. Like Lamb, it will drop some fruit about now in spring before its mature, but you still always end up with a good crop. I read your articles about pruning and also about hass being a great choice for a single tree. Youre very welcome. As for rootstocks, I havent seen them make a difference in my yard in terms of cold tolerance of the tree as a whole. "Hass avocados are alternate bearing - they will produce a big crop one year, and a small crop the next. The flesh is very oily, rich and creamy tasting. If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. Ive watched some young trees in your area get zapped by cold every couple years recently. Going back to Atkins to get a Sharwil to pair with my Reed. I feel really enthusiastic about it, and grateful for your advice. Oval-shaped and dark-green in color, the Choquette avocado originated in Florida and is a mix of two different types - Guatemalan and West Indian. I am looking for something to pair with Hass for extended season and help in pollination. But the intention is to have overlapping seasons for both A and B type so there is always cross pollination available (I know that doesnt guarantee it will work, but I like the idea of having that potential). Hass does really well in cool climates. Youve spurred me to finally post on some portion of the topic at least. We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. 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